alliance and leicester transfer bonus for account transfers
Hi - thanks for your post. I've just checked the details of the Alliance & Leicester £100 switching service and note that, on its website, it does state: "If you do not have any direct debits to switch you will not receive £100."
However, I think this is really odd - after all, why should people without direct debits be considered less worthy of receiving £100 than those that do?
I've contacted the A&L (or Abbey) press office about this and await a reply - I'll let you know as soon as I have an answer.
Has anyone else encountered a similar problem?
Thanks,
Rebecca Atkinson
Rebecca Atkinson is the news editor of Moneywise
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Hi again. I've now spoken to the Abbey press office, which deals with Alliance & Leicester current accounts since Santander took over the bank.
Basically, they argue that the £100 incentive is there to encourage people to switch - but it only wants customers that will use it as their main current account. The concern, from their end, is that people might only open an A&L account in order to claim the £100 incentive, and may be paying their salary into another deal with another bank elsewhere. Obviously, A&L wants people that will pay their income into this current account.
It is likely that A&L wants to attract long-term custom, and believes that people with direct debits are more likely to stick with it for a while rather than jump ship after their £100 come through.
I've also spoken to a couple of people who work in the current account market, and they agree that this seems a little unfair. But it doesn't seem like you can do anything about it, as it was stated on the website that people without direct debits could not claim the £100.
Thanks for bringing this to the attention of other Moneywise users - it certainly highlights the importance of always looking beyond gimmicks and incentives to make sure a deal is right for you.
Rebecca Atkinson
Rebecca Atkinson is the news editor of Moneywisec
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Whilst I complied with everything asked, including both standing orders & direct debits, I didn't move my salary until I was satisfied the account was open & fine. As a result, I paid £497 in after 11 weeks when the minimum is £500, so was advised I am not eligible for the £100.
This minmum £500 was hidden away in terms & conditions & smacks of shoddy practice.
Beware all !
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I was very tempted to open an account with A+L but have changed my mind after reading many, on-line, negative reviews about this scheme and terrible customer service.
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I had switched all my DD and SOs and my salary, then canceled all DDs back to main bank.. A+L said I hadn't complied. Am now filing complaint after 3 letters with financial ombudsman.
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I recently opened an Alliance and Leicester account - attracted I must admit by the £100 and the interest free overdraft. Direct debits and a standing order were moved from my old account within about 8 weeks and I paid in my salary and other amounts totaling over £500 within the first month. I have now received a letter from them saying that as I did not move a direct debit within 11 weeks I am not eligible for the incentive. As this is not true I have written appealing against this decision and I am still waiting a reply.
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I have transferred all of my direct debit using thbanks swithching servise. And without any problems I received very prompt payment of £100.
Also to jason post (above) if you read T&C before switching your account it stated you need to deposit at least £500 a month.
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thanks for the advice, it does help not to rush things financially yet im still contemplating my transfer to A&L.
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Hi,
I did receive the £100 for opening an account but do not think that I transferred any direct debits. I certainly have not used the account as my main current account nor have I switched my salary. I also opened a savings account to get £50, all through Quidco. I am happy to stay with the Halifax at the moment, whom I joined when they also offered £100 to switch but at least they try to keep customers by not dropping rates all the time!
I have opened up around six different savings accounts at A&L, each of which has been reduced to only £1 as soon as they become uncompetitive (very frequently). I assume that this means that A&L do not want long term account holders!
They only reason that I have all these £1 'dormant' accounts is that their internet banking service does not actually operate over the internet, you have to write in to close them for some obscure reason. I will shortly be closing these accounts with them, although annoyingly they now have a bank account (which I have opened) that pays 5% up to a £2500 balance so will need to leave two accounts open so that I can transfer £500 back and forward once a month to satisfy their £500 credit per month requirement.
In summary, watch out for them killing off their savings accounts very regularly and then making it almost impossible to find out the rates for these accounts on their website!
Andrew
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I transferred to A & L with no problems and received the welcoming bonus. I have also taken advantage of an account paying 4% fixed rate. They have a first rate in bank personal service and the adviser who has dealt with me is brilliant. It always pays to read small print before going ahead to make sure you comply fully with the rules and that the accounts on offer really do suit your needs. I have no regrets leaving my previous bank after 40 years.
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This is interesting. I will need to check because I gave authority for my dds and s/os to be transferred and they were not -I haven't checked the timelimit. The alliance and leicester claimed that I had not given authority. I have not been suspicious as to why until I read this. I actually came here to warn you all about a crucial problem with the alliance and leicester.
Their help lines, customer service etc are 0870 and 0844 numbers. They charge what they like for 0844 numbers -google it. I have asked what their charges are and was told yesterday that it is 6p connection and 5p a minute thereafter for the 0844 number.
My internet pin number for internet banking has not worked, so last week I called them to sort it out. They sent a new pin out. That pin has not worked either. A third pin is on the way. Each time I have had to use their premium rate numbers, and believe me I researched for alternatives.
they have an alternative number on one of their pages, whereby you can be transferred to different depts, except for the internet banking site.
The alliance and leicester is a crook operation. My advice- steer well clear.
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ps
this number is for alliance and leicester 0116 201 1000
it gets you through to their operator- who then claims that the internet banking number (0844) is the only way through to that dept, though you can get through to current accounts etc this way
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I am now happy to say the £100 bonus has been paid. it is worth checking the time limit as my previous bank twice refused to give details of my direct debits which delayed things to within about 1 week of the limit.
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I took up this opportunity a year ago when the offer was GBP50 to share between me and the referee, with a one year fixed 8.5% interest on balances up to GBP2500. It was the interest rate that attracted me, and given current interest rates it turned out to be a good deal. I saw the GBP25 as a sort of bonus interest. In order to maximise the return, I opened a single account and then referred my wife, who opened another single account. So we got a total of GBP75 plus 8.5% interest on GBP5000 for one year, which has just finished. The GBP500 per month was pretty obvious if you read the T&Cs, which you always should. E.g. if you fail to fund this account with GBP500 per month they charge you GBP5. This took some shifting around of funds each month, but the high interest made it worth it (and relatively easy with internet banking and standing order set up). I have never had any direct debits from this account and it has not affected it, so this may be a new T&C. It does seem a bit sneaky! The high interest period has now finished, and although it does pay a decent 1%, I am looking to close one of the accounts, and as Andrew points out, you can´t do it over the internet, so I am stuck with puting 500 in and out of a useless account for a bit until I can do that.
I have found the same thing with their savings accounts - although they offer pretty decent initial rates, it soon drops. They had a big push on an eSaver before Christmas, with prize draw and all, but the interest rate dropped within 3 months to be uncompetitive I took out their online saver 3 in March, only to have the rate drop within a week, and I emptied it in favour of their online saver4! So although they offer high initial rates,you have to watch them in case they drop. The Online saver4 currently still pays a decent 2.5% with instant access which isn´t bad, unless someone out there knows different?? Meanwhile, like Andrew I have a bunch of A&L accounts with just GBP1 in them!
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Yes I agree, the customer service I received from A & L is less than acceptable. Last week, close to closing time I took in 4 bags of change to change into notes. The counter assistant told me they needed all their notes! I ask you, how silly is that.
I changed my current account to them from the Co-operative Bank a couple of years ago, just to get a good rate ISA (when the rates were good) and I also find that I cannot have the £100 because I am an existing customer! How closed shop is that?
I am none too pleased with A & L (now Santander) and intend to move my current account back to the Co-op, who have been loyal to me for over 40 years. You can't beat good old British Banks! Never mind these pretend banks like A & L (former Building Societies).
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I have just come off the phone from them - I applied for the switching service over 11 weeks ago and they have only started the switch on the8th June. Which means I am ineligible even though they have delayed the switch. THIS IS A SCAM! I plan to sue them and take it to the national press.
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I have exactly the same problem they took 3months to transfer my salary which handily meant I missed the bonus I am currently awaiting a response after 2 calls of complaint.
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Santander/Alliance & Leicester are the most incompetent and obstructive organization I have ever encountered. They are incapable of handling simple processes like address changes, share sales, or transfers between accounts without making a series of basic errors. Their Complaints Procedure and “Customer Service” are a sick joke. I am still waiting after more than six weeks to find out how they managed to “misplace” £40,000 by transferring it from an ISA to a non-existent account.
My father, sister, daughter and I have all terminated our accounts with them, and I would advise anyone thinking of opening an account with A & L (or any other part of Santander) to look elsewhere – anywhere!
M E Leigh
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I set up my Alliance account online. I left the transfers in there capable hands but it took them over two months to get this set up, In doing so they went just beyond the time scale to allow the money being payed in to my account to qualify for bonus payment? I'm sure this is was on purpose. As a consequence of them taking so long to arrange transfers I ended up having a Direct Debit being missed on my old account and also suffered a Bank charge because of this. I plan to talk to someone on the switching team at alliance & leiscter tomorrow and Demand the bonus. If not I will be returning my business to the Halifax.
In a nutshell I would not bother with A&L, they are slow and you cant talk to anyone in the bank without having an 8 digit pin on you at all times. The £ 100.00 is a con.
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I started switch process may 09, As of today- 6/8/9 Alliance & Leicester havent completed the switch.
I recieved letters from my Direct Debits to say that they havent been paid due to insufiecient funds. Whats more hilarious is that A&L have transferred all my DD from my old account, but have failed to transfer the £500+ thats deposited into the old account.
Everytime i check my account balance the balance incorrect. Today on the phone im £99 in credit... at the machine im £320 overdrawn!!!
DONT EVEN BOTHER TRANSFERRING TO ALLIANCE AND LEICESTER- Its a farce. So much so im going to close down my ISA which is with Abbey National (now part also of Santander).
I am waiting to hear from a manager- I will also be writing to the ombudsman.
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Presently switching from Abbey to Alliance Leicester and so far their claim that "Using our Premier Switching Service couldnt be easier" seems to be a lot of baloney. Standing orders have been switched but not cancelled causing mortgage and another payment to be duplicated. Two standing orders have not been switched at all. Wages have been paid into the old account. Online list of direct debits is inaccurate so at this stage I am unable to confirm exactly which ones have been set up. Spoke with Switching dept who cut me off midway. Phoned and started again to be told that Alliance Leicester have done exactly as promised and it is all someone elses mistake. They are refusing to rectify any of it and I am having to contact all the other parties direct. Not impressed!
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Lucky you; however you are the minority and these Spanish sharks will be reported to Martin Lewis for their totally unreasonable and unfair practices to the majority of switching customers.
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Yes, me also..they are complete b%$t&!ds. Switched in mid October 09 and they did not contact my employer to switch my salary until beginning of January 10. Letter saying that I am ineligible for the £100 due to not paying in £500 within 11 weeks was dated 26 January 10 and strangely not received until 03 Feb. I had over £3k paid into the account at the end of January!
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I allegedly missed my 11 week deadline by 6 days and have just received a letter to confirm this and won't receive my bonus. What gets me is that they screwed up a standing order of mine so i paid twice, once from the old account and once from this new one as well.
They were not clear that the account was fully up and running. I had checked the dd's but they weren't all set up online, and you don't want to put £500 in to the new one if you have bills going out of the old account.
I called immediately on receipt of the letter dated the 3rd, to be told that it was in the t&C's blah blah. I said that if they don't pay i will simply transfer to another account (the old one is not fully closed yet). I suggested that their admin costs might equal the £100 if I have to move it back but they seemed uninterested. Nowhere does the literature they send you clarify that the account is now open and you need to fund it with £500 by a specific date to qualify for the £100. They won't have my money for long, I shall switch very quickly indeed.
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I too was attracted by the A/L £100 gift and so filled out their switching account info via Quidco which also attracted cashback of £50.00. Total of £150.00 an excellent 'investment'.
However my bank the Coventry say they did not receive the switching request.
A/L insist they sent the request but although an account was issued to me I did not qualify for the £100 because no direct debits were transferred.
I have asked A/L for proof that they sent the request but they said a copy of the letter was not available.
After complaining to A/L they gave me an ex-gratia payment of £50.00. when I threatened to close the account.
Something is fishy somewhere.
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Tried for the A+L £100 bonus but did not qualify as hadn't paid in £500 within a month. I had asked for my income to be switched by A+L which would cover that but that wasn't done. My mortgage direct debit didn't go thru either. Am now 2 months behind in mortage payments and owe A+L one quarter of this months income in bank charges for the direct debits they did pay. Apparently it's my fault it's all gone wrong for not checking they had got it right and as a goodwill gesture they have offered to knock £25 off their charges. This would not cover the charges caused by non-payment of my mortgage.
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My Wife took up this offer and followed all the instructions word by word and met all the deadlines set, however the last deadline for which A+L had to pay the bonus was never met by the bank. She rang to chase up several times just to be told that there was a huge backlog due to over whelming demand. A fewer few weeks passed and she rang again for an update. The person promised to check the payment processed that day - some 3 weeks after the deadline. To her surprise when she then checked her account, they had gave her 2 lots of £100 on the same day! So her persistence paid off - even if she had probably spent nearly half the money on telephone calls to A&L !
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me to i rang them and they said i would have to appeal but i told them to cancel account.but now they will send me a letter saying i will be paid £100. i think this is a scam.how many people are still going ahead with this account and not getting their £100.
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I decided to move to Alliance and Leicester as I currently only have an internet bank and wished to move to a high street bank.
The switching "service" has been appalling and Alliance and Leicester switching team were unprepared to take any responsiblity or offer any solution, (or indeed accept any suggested solutions) to address the issues. They were unable to supply even basic information to enable me to manage the situation. Fortunately, my current bank were able to supply the information required and have enabled me to effectively manage the problem created by Alliance and Leicster. Personally, I would be beyond embarrassed if my client needed to go to a competitor to address a problem I had created.
I requested to be put throught to a manger who could resolve issues and was advised that none were available and that the SLA for a manager call back was 48 hours!
I will be leaving Alliance and Leicester and will not use any Santander companies for business or personal banking as I have lost all confidence in them.
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Switching my account to A&L Premier current account to get the 100.00 reward has been a nightmare. I’ll try to make it brief.
- Switched the account at the branch on the first week of March. I was told I would receive a welcome pack
- I didn’t receive any welcome pack. I ‘accidentally’ received a letter from A&L with a wrong address. It was with a bunch of my other mails. The postman was smart enough to bunch it with my other letters.
- Called the customer service, change of address cant be done over the phone, I have to go to the branch with an ID. And a silly suggestion: Go to the wrong address and personally collect my mails. LOL!
- The branch has my correct address . Apparently, an underwriter has to key in my details to their system and this is where the error happened. The staff called a number and requested that my address be changed.
- Received two letters for the change of address. Addressed to the correct address and the wrong address (again, thanks to the smart postman). Phoned them again. I told them that if the person living at the wrong address is a fraudster, then they have unnecessarily exposed me to fraud. The reply is that, they automatically send the change of address letters to both new and address for security reason. How ironic!
- I thought the error with the address has been sorted out until I “accidentally” received a mail from A&L’s switching team with the wrong address.
- Phoned them up again. Apparently they have different systems. Whilst the main system has my correct address, the other systems/teams still have the wrong address. The other systems/teams are: Switching Team, Internet team, Travel Insurance Provider and the Plus Saver account team (the later two comes with the Premier Direct Account)
- Up to this writing (17April, 1month and 13 days after opening at the branch) I have not received the correct PIN for my internet account details.
- They have credited the 100.00 reward, but was it worth it for the stress, phone bills and unfriendly customer staff? There was one who sounded threatening that I would be connected to the Complaints Department! How’s that for trying to correct A&L’s mistake?
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I had a similar experience. I switched and did not receive the incentive. I contacted them several times, and finally I had the incentive credited to my account. I then went and upgraded to a Premier Direct acct so I could get 5% interest.
I switched over only one Direct Debit which was from Paypal, and I think that's what the problem was. It technically is a direct debit, but not one that is used regularly, only when buying stuff on auction.
Was it worth it? I probably would do it again, because £100 is £100 at the end of the day. It was definitely not as easy as first direct, who gave me the incentive without any problems.
I don't really rate A+L based on their internet banking or customer service, but they do have good incentives and interest rates.
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I have been a current account customer with A & L for approx 5 years and everything went through very smoothly, I have just opened a similar account with Santander to get the 5% interest and everything has gone through fairly smoothly even though it was within the last 2 weeks of the tax year when all the banks were busy with ISA's. The member of staff I saw in the branch was excellent and she arranged all the transfers between accounts PICR and PODR accounts. Now the Halifax is another matter I have repeatedly had to complain about their staff in branch, terms and conditions not being met and the rates of interest not easy to keep track of. Ive opened an account which is entitled Guaranteed Savings Reward but all the paperwork and the cash card do not show reward on them the excuse that I have been given is that I may not fulfull the terms and conditions therefore the reward may not be awarded to me, my argument with them is that in a years time will I recieve the reward in any case as they will squirm there way out of paying this extra interest.
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I was sent a letter by Abbey because I had not used my new account . They offered me an incentive of £50 if I started to use my account by paying in £1,000 each month, setting up a direct debit and using my debit card. However, on doing all of this I still have not received my incentive payment. I have lost the letter they sent me and despite 16 phone calls to various departments at Abbey they say that they have no record of a letter being sent out, so I cannot get my £50. Does anyone have any ideas as to what to do please?
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Tried to move from one bank to A&L as thought they would offer me a better service. Evenif this may have been true financially, eventually, I chose to cancel the whole thing a few days after the deal was done because I soon realised it was almost impossible to get in contact with a real person. When I did finally get to speak to someone they sounded like they had heard this complaint a thousand times before and were tired of it. I felt sorry for them. And decided to cancel the whole thing. I was afraid for them to be in charge of my money. Completely USELESS, I am so relieved I got out before I got in. I would have liked to know timescales/processes before I tried to apply, it makes it sound so simple but it is everything but. The product was Alliance and Leicester Premier Current Account Switching Service.
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We're in the process of leaving A&L because of the deterioration in their banking practices and customer service since Santander took over. We've been customers of multiple A&L services (current, savings, mortgages) for over 25 years and always held them in very high esteem - but that's all been changed now!
Their shark-like practices regarding even momentary overdraws, the speed, quality and availability of their website, the fact that they approved a new mortgage in principle and then withdrew it without adequate explanation, their high-handed closure of a dormant business account - their labyrinthine phone system, the disconnected nature of their accounts structure (it sometimes take 3 days to web transfer money from one A&L account to another!!) and many more minor irritations have driven us away. Until a year or so ago we recommended A&L to anyone, they were excellent, but no more.
Most of these things have come about since the Santander influence took hold, and we don't like it. We are going to jump ship to First Direct.
AT
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OMG - I thought I was the only one on the planet whose balances don't show the true state of the account.
Mine is on an on-line account - The balance on the screen shows one figure - the available balance another completely different figure.
I've always assumed the difference to be direct debits coming due - but no - apparently you need to ignore the balance they tell you (it's a lie) and just look at the available balance!
I thought I'd covered all my direct debits this month - but apparently not - have just been charged £50 for going £20 over my overdraft limit for 34 hours - because I stupidly believed that the balance that showed on the computer was correct!!!
The CSR when phoned was incompetent - and very nervous when I mentioned the possibility that this was perhaps fraudulent?
I know this isn't the first time I've thought I've covered my direct debits only to be hit with bank charges, but now I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that I've been duped and I reckon I've probably had to pay out hundreds of pounds either directly because I've believed the balance on the screen or due to bank charges in subsequent months which I've been unable to cover.
I'm sure it's some sort of scam - but looking at other postings on other sites I don't really rate my chances of getting any explanation (or any money back) when I write to them!
Please - anyone considering opening and A&L account - DON'T DO IT !!!!
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Do not bother opening an account with A&L. Their staff are rude and totally incompetent to the degree of requesting a transfer from one A&L account to another A&L account and the f12345g b123h put the money back into the original account. This is just one example.
Their faster payments as A&L were £250 now as Santander its only gone up to £300. By comparisson HSBC is £10,000. Thus bloody useless.
Then if with HSBC you go over your limit be it OD or whatever you can pay funds in that day and not incurr any charges, with A&L you have to have the money in the day before.
As soon as i have got my OD down to zero with A/L I will be moving back to HSBC where their process is beneficial to the customer their staff are couteous and efficient and if they make a mistake they own upto it and fix it unlike A&L who will deny it to their deaths.
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Hi
I also opened a Premier current account with A & L last April mainly because of the £100 bonus. I followed all the instructions by the letter (or so I thought), had my salary paid into the account straight away and transferred all my direct debits. However, 6 months later, I have not received the £100 payment. I have called them up and they have told me that on the date I applied ONLINE for the Premier account and the switch, the £100 offer was only applicable if you did it AT A BRANCH. I suspect that this is not true, but I have no evidence now to prove them wrong... has anyone else had this problem?
Even if the interest I get on my savings is better now than what I had with HSBC before switching, I still find this lack of clarity in the terms and conditions very disappointing.
M. J.
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I'm in a similar situation to the post above.
Switched my direct debits across and after a 45 min phone call told that I didn't qualify as I didn't use their specific service even though their advisor's told me previously I would get it!
I'm definitely closing the account!!
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Just a note to all out there who think it would be nice to take advantage of the A&L offer to get £100 for transferring your current account.
My son took up this offer in January, however though he used the transfer service for his salary credit and the existing standing orders on his old account with Barclays, he has now received a letter saying that as he has not transferred any direct debits within 11 weeks of opening the account he will not get the £100!
The fact that all his existing mandates were transferred using the A&L transfer service is of no consequence as he did not transfer any direct debits [ because he did not have any], only standing order mandates, which he was informed was not important. A&L only were concerned with direct debits!!
Anyone else received this 'service' and if so , have you managed to sucessfully counter this and make them see the iniquity of their stance. The terms and conditions just says 'direct debits and standing orders' without specifying the necessity of transferring a direct debit!